Law School Waitlists
A client just sent me this e-mail:
I was wondering if you could give me (or blog about) a little more insight about how wait lists usually work. Is there a weighted order in which applicants are ranked and then applicants are taken off according to that? Is the ranking based on their admissions index number or the order in which they received apps? Would retaking the LSAT in June and getting a higher score give them more of a reason to take an applicant off the WL?
As a director of admission for a law school, I looked at my waitlist for a combination of the following:
1. Likelihood of attendance if offered admission.
2. Numbers.
I didn’t have time to make phone calls going down the list – I wanted to make one call to an applicant who I knew would be thrilled to hear from me and who would commit to my school practically on the spot.
This is why Letters of Continued Interest are so important. This is why likeability is a factor. Whose day do I want to make? That’s what I would think about.
Now, not every school uses its waitlist in the same way, and not every school uses its wait list the same way from year to year or week to week. Some do place people in quartiles or priority lists. Others use numbers only or residents first or perhaps even take diversity factors back into account depending on how it seems the class is shaping up so far. You can’t predict what will happen, and nothing I tell you will change that.
The key thing to keep in mind is that, yes, people get into their dream schools off the waitlist. Absolutely. So, if it’s important to you, then pursue it. If you’re staying on the waitlist just to get another acceptance letter in your portfolio, then perhaps consider a polite bowing out in favor of that applicant who would be thrilled at the acceptance. (Just because the law schools play games doesn’t mean you have to : )
Lastly, I have seen people improve on the June LSAT and be admitted off a waitlist as a result. Yes. I had a client with a 165 waitlisted at Northwestern. He came back with a 170 on the June LSAT and was admitted.
I’m sure there will be a few comments on this post, and I’m happy to answer questions. Just keep in mind I can’t give individual advice about your personal “waitlist campaign” in this format.
Related posts:
- Getting Off a Law School Waitlist
- Still on a Wait List?
- On Hold? Law School Application Limbo….
- 5 Things You Can Do To Be Admitted From the Wait List
- Agonizing over Being Waitlisted?
Ann K. Levine, Esq., former director of law school admissions for two ABA approved law schools, is a law school admission consultant and owner of Law School Expert,
Hi Ms. Levine,
Thanks for the time you put into your blog! What time of year should students start sending letters of continues interest to WL schools? Does it make sense to wait until after the rush of April deposit season?
Thanks,
Anthony
Hi Anthony,
Any time after receiving a waitlist decision is fair game. You can follow up again after the deposit deadline for the school.
Ann
Hi Ms. Levine,
It is such a coincidence that you posted this blog b/c I have just been waitlisted at my top 2 choices and I have been battling with when to send my LOCI. After reading your blog, I will send them out within the next week and continue to follow up. One of the schools is in the state I live in so I plan on making a visit to show even more interest. Do you believe visits help any?
Thank you for this blog…I cannot tell you how helpful it was.
Visits are vital, Stephanie!
Hi Ms. Levine,
I was placed on hold at my top choice during the EA period (LSAT is out of range so gave me a great deal of hope) and am anxiously awaiting a response which should come soon. In the meantime, I have sent extra letters of reference, an LOCI, and visited the institution which is quite far from where I am living currently.
I went over some of the materials submitted on my behalf and noticed a mistake on one of my job titles on my resume is worded differently than the title used in one of my letters of reference. The substantiative description of the job is the same and the titles are not dramatically different. I technically work for two separate entities at once and its not unusual for there to be a disconnect between the two in terms of job titles.
Should I follow up to correct this? I feel like I have submitted so many extra materials it might be best to slide.
Hi Lisa,
I agree – the resume inconsistency is no big deal.
Good luck!
Hello Ms. Levine,
I have a question about what I should do. I am a female minority and was placed at my top choice (American University) waitlist. Honestly, I did not even think they would consider my application because it is a long shot for me. My GPA is in their 25th percentile with a 3.34 and LSAT is no where on the radar, 144. In my case, should I consider the waitlist a rejection if they are Yield protecting? Or do I have any chance of getting off, and if so, what should I do? (I sent a letter of continued interest and spoke with the Dean of Diversity Affairs and an alumnae professor there about my file).
Hi Jasmine,
It sounds like you’re doing everything right. I have seen American make HUGE exceptions on LSAT in order to admit minorities. If they weren’t going to consider you seriously, they would have outright rejected you. I think your chances will depend on how many deposits they get from URM admitted applicants.
I wish you the best of luck!
Hi Ann,
Thank you for blogging for those of us that can’t quite afford a full consultant right now. My LSAT is 4 points above the 75th percentile at my first choice school (South Texas C of L), but I just got waitlisted. Lower GPA probably hurt. In your experience, is a school like this likely to admit off the list, and if so, would a letter campaign on my part really help? Thanks again, even if you can’t respond.
Absolutely, it would help! And if it’s your first choice school you’d better WORK IT!
Ann
I am curious if you have seen what Wisconsin is doing this year. They are waitlisting students with substantially higher LSAT numbers than their medians, along with other normally admitted students. They will send an offer of admission for the following year as a transfer if you’re in the top half of your class as a 1L at another school, but then bait you into submitting a letter of continued interest and it specifically asks you to do so and explain why you like Wisconsin.
Have you ever seen anything quite like this? Are they most likely just trying to yield protect or boost their median numbers?
Thanks.
Dear Ann,
Thank you for your blog. It has been very useful to me throughout the admissions process thus far.
I have been waitlisted at Pepperdine University. Through much soul searching, visiting the campus, and even more research, I know this is the school I want to attend. I decided that if called, no matter how late in the academic year, I will go.
I was wondering how many LOCI’s you recommend sending. Is once a month too much? Or should I do it every, say, two months, etc.
I would also like to get in contact with several professors at the school who are alums at my undergrad. Ask for advice and possibly for some help. Is this going too far?
Lastly, based on the admissions cycle thus far and throwing the recession into the mix, how likely do you think schools like Pepperdine will dip into their wait list. I know last year they didn’t dip at all but the year before they pulled out 25-30 students.
One last thing. I have been asked to model for a bikini photo shoot for a military fundraising calendar. I was wondering if this is worth mentioning to the school or does it not matter? Or even worse, would schools look at this negatively?
Thank you so much for your advice.
Hi fellow Californian,
First, this is Pepperdine. So please do not model in your bikini. Or, if you do, please don’t tell them or let it come up in any google searches. Please.
Second, once a month is fine – you can mix it up with a phone cal instead of a letter.
Professors at the law school who went to your undergrad? That relationship seems a bit tenuous….
I can’t predict which schools will use their waitlists or the extent to which they’ll use them. Just hang in there!
And thanks for reading the blog!
Ann
@Ann Levine
Thank you so much for your advice. I really appreciate your taking the time to answer my questions.
Hi Ann
I got waitlisted at UC Hastings, and I know thats the school where I want to go. I have visited the school once after receiving the email that I was waitlisted, and I plan on going again, but in the email they clearly said they did not want any emails or phone calls, and they said to just check my email for further instructions. So far, they haven’t emailed me anything . I know they said no email or calls, but do you think its ok to send a LOCI?
Also, my LSAT is below the range, do you think there is any chance of getting off their waitlist? I have heard UC hastings is big on the yield protecting.
And just one more thing, with seat deposits due in just a few days, would Hastings not consider me if I put a seat deposit elsewhere while I wait for their decision?
Sorry for all the questions, thanks so much
ELLA
Ella, you must put down a seat deposit at another school. You’d be an idiot not to. It won’t hurt you at Hastings to do so. Rather, you need to communicate to Hastings that it’s your first choice and you’d go there under pretty much any circumstances. Follow the school’s instructions re: appropriate communication, but still communicate with them. Good luck!
have a question about what I should do. I was waitlisted at Villanova Law (my top choice). Honestly, I did not even think they would consider my application because of my numbers. My GPA is in their 2.75 (1.5 first year and jumped 3.00 to 3.30 (senior year) and LSAT is in 150s, but was accommodated). In my case, should I consider the wait list a rejection ? Or do I have any chance of getting off, and if so, what should I do? (I sent a letter of continued interest
Stephanie, you need to work this! Launch a one-woman waitlist campaign! Let them know you’d be there, no matter what! This is no time to give up.
Hi Ann, wonderful website!
I’ve been waitlisted by American, William and Mary, Iowa, and Loyola Chicago. My LSAT 161, I’m Asian.
What would you recommend getting off the waitlist? American is my first choice, then Iowa.
Catherine, Glad you like the site! You need to demonstrate your likelihood of attendance if selected. American’s waitlist is about 100 miles long this year, so one of the others might be easier. Therefore, don’t put all your eggs in the “American” basket. Good luck!
Anne,
I saw you mentioned that American’s waitlist is “100 miles long this year” – I’m on the waitlist and have already sent in a LOCI, but I wanted to know, based on your experience, if you believe the waitlist will be opening up? What do you think the chances are of anyone getting off the waitlist? Do you know when they typically will start to make decisions? Any knowledge you can share would be greatly appreciated!
Thank you so much!
Ashley, it’s impossible to predict what any one school will do from year to year with their waitlists but American’s feels pretty hefty… All I can say for advice is this: Better to be proactive and not get in than to wonder “what if I’d made more of an effort?”
Good luck!
Hi Ann,
I am curious if you have any insight into the University of Houston’s waitlist this year? I know that they got about 20% more apps this year than last.
Hi Joe,
UH is a regional-based school so they won’t play games with their WL. They are just trying to see how many spots they have and how many people (and what kind of people – GPAs, LSATs, diversity, male v. female, etc.) they need to balance out the class (just like any other school really).
My standard mantra on being on the WL is: If you do nothing, you won’t get it. If you campaign for it, at least you’ll know you did everything within your power to try.
Good luck!
Ann
Ann, THANK YOU for your blog and book! I have relied heavily on both during my admissions cycle.
I’ve been placed on Columbia’s Reserve/WL (1st choice), which I’ve heard is pretty substantial. Realistically, when does CLS make offers to the Reserve, if at all? I’m Asian, LSAT 25th percentile. I’m sending a strong LOCI and am visiting campus again (live very far from NYC). Given my numbers, what else should I add to my campaign?
At this point, how often should I follow up with Admissions? I’ve heard once a month to several times a week. Lastly, would it help to mention other admissions/scholarship offers from other schools (T25, T50)? Thanks so much!
Ann, THANK YOU for your blog and book! Both have been a huge help during my admissions cycle.
I’ve been placed on Columbia’s Reserve/WL (1st choice), which I’ve heard is pretty substantial. Realistically, when does CLS make offers to the Reserve, if at all? I’m Asian, LSAT 25th percentile. I’m sending a strong LOCI and am visiting campus again (live very far from NYC). Given my numbers, what else should I add to my campaign?
At this point, how often should I follow up with Admissions? I’ve heard once a month to several times a week. Lastly, would it help to mention other admissions/scholarship offers from other schools (T25, T50)? Thanks so much!
Hopeful,
I’m so glad the blog and book have been helpful. (If you’re so inclined, I love to collect more 5-star reviews on Amazon!)
Once a month isn’t enough, and several times a week is psychotic. Try every 2-3 weeks – and remember it doesn’t have to be substantial letters each time. Demonstrating your sincere and absolute commitment is key.
Visiting is good, LOCI is good, if they will accept additional LORs then you could consider that. Update transcripts if you have new grades.
However, telling them about other admission offers and scholarships is USELESS> why would Columbia care that you’ve been admitted to T25, T50 schools?? Does that make you more desirable to Columbia??? It’s not relevant to Columbia. What are your ties to NY? How long will you stay on the WL? These are the essential facts to show since you are not nearby.
Good luck with the wait list!
Ann,
I know you hear it from everyone, but thank you so much for your advice! It’s so helpful.
My question regarding waitlists is about the timeframe…
I’ve been waitlisted at 7 schools that I would rather go to than the the 2 I’ve been accepted to (and put down seat deposits at). I feel like I can postpone my life to remain on the waitlists until the end of July. However, at some point, I will need to find an apartment, sign a lease, and move (etc.). My current plan is to do all of the above at the beginning of August in time for the start of class in mid/late August.
My question is: do most schools call people off their waitlists in late August, days before classes? Or are you just as likely to get called off a waitlist in June/July?
Is it pointless to remain on the waitlist if I can only stay on till August 1st.
My biggest fear is that I will finalize at one school and then get the call off the waitlist at my dream school.
Thanks for any advice!
Sam! I can never hear it enough ; ) Thanks for taking the time to tell me.
Some schools will pull from waitlists in June/July but if you’re willing, you can get a call on the first day of classes too… If at some point you can’t justify moving, then you know to take yourself off the WL. Of course, people may also just do extended stay or corporate housing for a month in this situation.
Hang in there!
Dear Ann :
I want to thank you for your super helpful book and blog. You give out the most helpful advice on law school admissions. I feel like I owe you a lot !
I have a question about William & Mary waiting list. I have heard that they are notorious for having a large waiting list. Do students in the past actually get in through the list or should I take it as a soft reject ?
I am Asian from the west coast and I do not have great numbers. My LSAT score is 158. I was surprised that they waitlisted me. What do you think are the chances of me getting in off the list ? I don’t know if being Asian would factor in for this school. I looked up the stats for Asians and each class only has very small number of Asian students.
Thank you so much for your input !
Sandra,
As you know, W&M recently sent out a letter to WL applicants telling them they weren’t sure but expected to take some, just not taking any at this point. So far, that’s normal. Most WLs don’t move until later in the summer. Let WM know how you would contribute directly to diversity and why you want to attend, that it’s your first choice, etc. I can’t give you chances – it’s impossible – but I can tell you what will happen if you just sit back and wait. There is no such thing as a “soft reject” – schools have no interest in sparing your feelings : )
I’m so glad the book and blog are helpful. If you’re so inclined and you haven’t already, I would truly appreciate another 5 star review of the book on Amazon!
Enjoy the weekend, and good luck on the WL.
Ann
Greetings Ann,
I really appreciate your blog; it has been insightful and gives those of us in waitlist limbo a bit of hope too. I have two questions I was hoping you could help me with.
I am on the University of Houston waitlist for full-time admission. I have a mid-150′s LSAT score with an mid to upper GPA , and also over a decade of technical and project management experience with a government contractor in Houston. I am certain I could have scored better, but my job is very demanding and has consistently required working 55-90 hour weeks (spanning several weeks at a time) and travel to live out of hotel rooms for months at a time. It was an incredibly disruptive force in my study schedule. My question is this; UofH appears to be accepting candidates off their waitlist pretty much falling in line with descending LSAT score (self reported statistics), and most if not all are current university students or recent graduates. They have also offered some full-time waitlisters part-time slots, but not me. What are the chances someone with my background might get a late invite to the party as a “class diversity pick,” and how should I sell my position to the AdCom during the remainder of the wait?
Secondly, I mentioned in my first LOCI that I had been accepted to another school with incentive, but that I would happily forego that to accept a position at UofH. Since then, I have read several places that doing so is a major no-no. Is this considered to be an egregious sin, and if so, a recoverable one?
Thank you so much in advance! I’ll be sure to check out your book while I wait; good to know it is there. Warm regards.
Hi Ann,
I was wondering if you knew what I could do to get off of Notre Dame’s waiting list? Notre Dame is my top choice but they waitlisted me because of my low numbers. I can not afford to take the LSAT again and I have already mailed in three letters of continued interest, three more letters of recommendation and I even took a fourteen hour bus drive to visit them. I really want to attend Notre Dame but I feel that they will not look past my numbers.
LInden, obviously ND is looking past your numbers because you’re still on the WL! Just keep it up and don’t give up!
Dear Hopeful Workaholic,
WHy do you think it would be an incentive to a school to say that you’ve been admitted elsewhere? The key is that you would absolutely attend UH, not that you have other options. (I should hope you have other options!). (Sounds like you’ve already figured this out…) However, I put it in the “recoverable” category. Let UH know you would attend, either FT or PT, and keep letting them know! Good luck.
Hi Ann,
First off, I’d like to say thanks for taking the time to start a website dedicated to giving student advice to getting off wait lists. It really is a stressful process that requires a lot of patience so it’s nice to hear from experts like you giving sound advice about the appropriate steps to take.
I was wait listed at my top choice school, George Washington University with an LSAT of 157 and my GPA is 3.5. I know that according to their accepted student matrix, my numbers are on the lower end, but being placed on the wait list (instead of being rejected) makes me feel that the admissions staff does believe that I have what it takes to attend their school (even though my numbers aren’t so high). I received the waitlist letter at the end of April. Since then, I’ve received weekly updates from the dead of admissions. I have responded every week to the updates with a kind email saying that GW is my top choice school and that I am privileged and honored to be on the wait list. I also sent an LOCI a month and a half ago and had one of my college professors write an additional letter of recommendation. Also, a few weeks ago I visited the campus and took a tour, met with a 3L, and picked up some literature. My desire to study at GW Law is now solidified. And of course, after my visit, I sent a thank you note to the student who gave me the tour. I really want to attend GW because I didn’t get into my other top choice (American Univ.) and being placed on the wait list here makes me feel that I am just one step to making my dream a reality. I am being very patient about waiting and am willing to wait all summer long to be put off this wait list hopefully. Is there anything else I should be doing? Should I send another LOCI or would that be too annoying? Should I write another essay making a case for myself about my future objectives and endeavors and why I believe an education at GW Law would best help me meet these?? Any advice would be greatly appreciated. I just want to make sure I am doing all the right things. Thanks!!!!
Hi Ify,
I’m glad the post was helpful to you.
It sounds like you’ve done everything right with GW. I don’t think you need another essay – you already impressed them with your application or you wouldn’t be WL. However, make sure they know you would absolutely, unconditionally attend. As long as they know that you’re doing what you need to do.
Good luck!
Ann
Hi Ann,
First off, I am very impressed with the depth of information on your site and the variety of topics you have been covering. Hats off!
Regarding waiting lists, I have a question for you- In early July I was placed on the waiting list for a Canadian school for admission this fall. Do you have any advice as to a course of action at this point given the narrow window of time remaining? From what I am reading here, it sounds as if it may be a bit naive to assume that the final decision on my application is completely out of my hands at this point.
Thank you in advance for your feedback!
Hi Ann,
First of all, thanks so much for all the effort you’ve put into this blog!
I am on Boston University’s waitlist and recently received a phone call from them asking if I was still interesting in attending their school, because they expect to be making a few offers soon and wanted to get in touch with the people they are looking at. Do you have any insight as to what this means? Is there anything i can do in the meantime? I already told them over the phone that they were my first choice and would go if accepted. Its getting late in the game and I need to know where I’m going to be, but I don’t know how realistic it is to be waiting for this. Any advice? Thanks!
Kelly
Hi Ann,
First of all, thanks so much for all the effort you’ve put into this blog!
I am on Boston University’s waitlist and recently received a phone call from them asking if I was still interested in attending their school, because they expect to be making a few offers soon and wanted to get in touch with the people they are looking at. Do you have any insight as to what this means? Is there anything i can do in the meantime? I already told them over the phone that they were my first choice and would go if accepted. Its getting late in the game and I need to know where I’m going to be, but I don’t know how realistic it is to be waiting for this. Any advice? Thanks!
Kelly
Kelly – it’s great that they called! Let them know you will absolutely attend. IF you’ve already done that, give them a call at the end of the week if you haven’t heard from them.
Good luck!
Hello Ann,
Now that the 2010-11 season is pretty much over, I was wondering what you thought about reapplying to schools you were wait-listed at? I was accepted to a few schools but wait-listed at better schools such as Georgetown, Duke, UVA, GWU, etc. I’ve also taken the LSAT twice already (last october, then december), the second test made my applications later than I wanted them to be (Though the score was better). I do not wish to take it again, not sure if you think I should, as my score could easily drop instead of raise. What could I do to make my reapplication more attractive? Do you have any tips?
Thanks!
Don’t take the LSAT again, Coretta. Just apply by the end of October and follow the guidelines in my book. If you’d like me to review your applications from last year and give you pointers, check out my consulting services: http://www.lawschoolexpert.com
Hello Anne,
I find your Blog on this topic very enlightening, thank you. I have been waitlisted at SIU showing a 2.85 and a 153. This is my first choice program. My low GPA is from my first year of undergrad fourteen years ago, I recieved my degree later graduating with honors. I am a non traditional 33 year old, married, homeowner, candidate. I am considering writing a LOCI, should I scout out another LOR to include as well? and would a deadline to remain of the waitlist be quick road to rejection?
Thank you!
Eugene, you tell them you will absolutely attend no matter what, even if they call you at the last 5 minutes before orientation. you’re already qualified so another LOR should only be about a new aspect of your application or from an alum or someone influential at that school. Write letters every few weeks, go visit, make friends with someone in the office. Don’t annoy them, but make them really like you and want to go to bat for you. Good luck!
i was admitted to one graduate school program and have two weeks to accept their offer. Another graduate school, (my first choice) has placed me into their hold category.Before i accept the offer i want to contact my first choice and ask them for their final decision. is this appropriate and how would i go about doing it?
thank you
I don’t deal with grad school programs, Jana, only law school. But probably you just have to accept one offer and risk losing the seat deposit. Good luck.
Thanks Ann — your site is amazing!!
Question. My daughter has been accepted to UC Hastings (shocking with the LSAT score) – but she has also applied to USC Law, but has not heard back yet. Can you please tell me when she has to give Hastings an answer??? Is the “clock ticking”, so to speak? Also, UC Hastings is so expensive – do we wait to accept their offer until we hear about financial aid *FAFSA filed early this year.
Thank you so much for your help.
Margo, USC is slow this year in getting back to people, not just your daughter : )
Usually the seat deposit is due 4/15 so she has plenty of time to figure out Fin Aid, etc.
Ann!!!!!!!!!!! Thank you SO SO much — you are amazing!! In your personal opinion…IF she got into USC, should she choose that school over UC Hastings? (Yes, I am leaning towards San Francisco):
Margo, she’ll have to visit each school and make up her mind and look at the price tag, etc.
Hi Ann!
Thought you may find this interesting. My daughter was PERSONALLY” greeted by the Dean of UC Hastings this morning. She had called to ask if she could sit in on a class. When she told him her name, HE KNEW WHO SHE WAS as he started repeating back details from her personal statement and resume! I mean, isn’t this unusual??? Anyway, I am hoping that she will forget about USC (still hasn’t heard) and opt for Hastings.
Thanks for all your hard work on here ANN!!!
Ann,
I was recently wait listed at my top choice, UConn. I emailed the request to remain on the wait list the day after I received the decision email, and sent them an email indicating UConn was my top choice, and put a few sentences in there as to why. Should I send them a formal LOCI through the mail? I also have a meeting with my CT state representative (I am a CT resident). I arranged this meeting through his employer, who wrote one of my original letters of recommendation. He has agreed to write me an additional letter of rec… Is this a wise decision or is it irrelevant/not too impressive? FYI, I applied January 13; 159 LSAT/3.7 GPA.
Arianna
Arianna, it sounds like you’re doing everything right. IF you know any alumni of the law school who would make a call/send an email on your behalf then that would be great too. The key is to let UConn know you’re a sure thing – if admitted, you will attend. Keep in touch every few weeks (more tips on this in my book if you haven’t seen that chapter… you can actually download and listen to just that chapter of the audio book here and it’s only a dollar!!!
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Hello Ann,
I’m wondering what the appropriate amount of contact is if you are waitlisted at your top choice. I’m on the waitlist at Columbia with a 169 and a 3.6 from a top liberal arts school. I know my scores/gpa are a little on the low side for them, but I’m hoping to show my dedication and interest in the school. My plan was to write them a letter thanking them for their continued consideration of my application and restating my interest (i sent one addendum with my original application), hopefully visiting for a second time and sitting in on a class (with a professor I met on my last visit who was interested in my studies/thesis, and specializes in the field I’m most interested in), sending thank you notes to those I interact with at the school, and finally resubmitting any final grades, honors, or distinctions after they become available. Is this the right course of action? I know its a long shot, but I figured being proactive would give me the greatest chance.
Thank you in advance for your help!
Hi Carlisle, you’re doing everything right. You’re not passing the “stalking” line so keep doing exactly what you are doing. Good luck!
Hi Ann,
I read in one of the comments that you mentioned one of the law schools has a long waitlist. Is there any way of finding out exactly how long the waitlist is for my school? I just got waitlisted to BU.
Also, I see that you have repeatedly advised letting them know that you would go to their school no matter what if accepted. Do you have any other topics to cover in the multiple LOCI to be sent over the months?
Thank you so much!
Josh
Hi Josh, there is no way to know for sure and to be honest, all that information might do is make you paranoid rather than give you valuable information. At the end of the day, people with strong, demonstrated interest in the school are most likely to be picked, especially if their numbers are also in range, and especially if they fulfill anything “missing” from the currently-deposited class (gender and race diversity, age diversity, geographic diversity, etc.). Getting them to like you and want to call you to make your day is the key to success on waiting lists. The goal is to think: If they pick even one person, I want them to think of me. With that mentality, it doesn’t matter if there are 100 or 1,000 people on the waiting list.
I will also say that if you’re on the waiting list for a school that just jumped in the rankings, it might be harder to get in because more people will send in deposits. This works in the reverse too.
I really hope this was helpful!
Thank you for the help! I really appreciate it.
Dear Ann,
Thanks for all the information and advice — it really helps in this stressful time! I realize you’re probably incredibly busy, but if you get the chance, I’d appreciate your insight.
I’m on hold at my top choice and sent a LOCI about a month ago, telling them that they are my top choice and that I would attend if admitted. I did not mention, however, that during the admissions cycle, I was offered a paralegal position in a fairly well-respected law firm for this next year. I had not been expecting this when I first began my application process.
In an ideal world, I’d defer and work for a year and attend school next fall. Is this something I should not mention in my LOCI, if the school is probably looking to fill its class seats? Or would it be helpful in demonstrating that legal employers see potential in me?
My first instinct was not to mention it, but I figured it wouldn’t hurt to ask you.
Thanks again for all your wonderful work,
Tina
Tina, your first instinct was the right one.
Dear Ann,
Thank you for the advice. My top choice for law school is NYU. They have not responded yet, which I am assuming means I will either get rejected or waitlisted. I know my LSAT score is below their median (it is 165), and my GPA is 3.89. However, I am an underrepresented minority. I was wondering if it is okay to send a LOCI even though they have not sent me their decision yet.
Thanks,
Paola
Paola, it is ok. Just be sure you add something new to your application (an update, etc.) in the letter. Good luck!
Ann,
I stumbled upon this blog after searching for advice through google and I couldn’t be happier with all of the advice I gained just by reading the above comments. I was recently waitlisted at Northeastern. I immediatly sent in their online interest “survey” and I am mailing out a letter of interest today. I read above that you advised a few people to send a letter, email, or call the admissions office every 2-3 weeks. In my initial letter I expressed further interst, information, and fact I learned about the school. So I guess my question is, in follow-up letters and emails other than again stating my interest and intent to attend if accepted what other information should I provide. My first letter was a 1.5 pages, I assume in the future much shorter is best….
I can just invision myself getting writers block.
Thanks again for taking the time to start this blog, again it has been a HUGE help!
Brian
Hi Ann, great post and so much useful information. I was wait listed at Cardozo, I’m planning on accepting an offer from NYLS just so that I won’t be left with nothing in the end, my question is if I do get accepted to Cardozo let’s say two days before classes start how do I let NYLS know and how it works with loans/fafsa?
Thank you so much for your time
Liana, this happens all the time and it’s just a momentary stressor for a long-term good decision.
Hi Brian, I get this question a lot from my clients! Making contact often doesn’t mean writing a lengthy letter every time. It can be a quick email, a voicemail message, an alum sending an email for you – just a reminder that you’re there, motivated and interested.
Hi Ms. Levine;
I have found your blogs really helpful. I did my undergrad at UCLA had a 3.1 GPA at the time of application. Now currently had a 3.3 after my fall grades came in. I had a very low LSAT 145 first time, 146 second time. I was very aware of my chances of getting into law school with those numbers, even though I am Latina and a minority going into law school. I was very surprised to receive a wait listed position from Southwestern Law school. I plan to write the letter of Intent, plus an extra essay that is optional. Also, a few recommendation letters. What are my chances of getting in? I also got wait listed to Thomas Jefferson, but denied everywhere else.
Dear Ann,
Thank you so much for your book and for your blogs! I have been following your advice closely ever since I first considered applying to law school, about 2 years ago.
I am currently waitlisted at GWU, which is my top choice particularly because I am interested in practicing as a patent lawyer. However, I have been admitted to the U of Minnesota with a $22K/yr scholarship offer and have already submitted my seat deposit. I am trying to decide whether I should send a LOCI to GWU, because it is a school that I would love to attend over UMN. However, the scholarship offer from UMN makes this difficult because I am not inclined to accept an offer from GWU if I do not receive a scholarship, especially since both schools have equal rankings. Is it appropriate for me to stay on GWU’s waitlist hoping for a scholarship (and thus send a LOCI) or should I withdraw since a scholarship offer is unlikely even if I am admitted?
Thanks for your input!
Lily
Hi Ann-
Again, you’re amazing for keeping this blog up and running, and for personally responding to all these posts!
I’ve been waitlisted at Notre Dame (my TOP choice), and have already sent in a seat deposit at American University (which I would totally be happy to lose if accepted at NDLS!).
I have sent an email to the Admissions Office at NDLS expressing my huge excitement at being waitlisted, and continued interest in NDLS, as my top choice.
I would LOVE to visit the school, but I live in California and it really isn’t feasible (money, time, and distance). I know that I should try to establish a relationship with the members of the Admissions Office/Committee so that they go to bat for me when the decision is made, but I don’t know how to establish that kind of personal relationship without visiting.
And I don’t want to just call the office for the sake of calling, without a specific question, and I REALLY don’t want to nag them about my application (and possibly associate negative thoughts with my file). As a former admissions officer, how tolerant of are people in the admissions office of uunfoucused phone calls like that? Or do you have a better suggestion?
I am also working on writing my formal LOCI but I’m not sure what kind of tone to take. Nights when I haven’t been able to sleep (thinking about law school!) I’ve recorded simple voice notes on my phone of thoughts I’ve had about NDLS, and about what I’d say in my LOCI. Listening to them later, they seemed much more genuine than anything I’d written thus far. Is it too much of a schtick to perhaps send in an audio LOCI? Would this just be too over the top?
I really want to be taken seriously, but also want the Admissions Committee to feel like they know me personally, which is difficult being so far away.
Anyway, thank you so much for your blog; it has already given me much food for though.
Lily,
No reason to w/draw from GWU – wait and see what they offer, IF they make an offer. But congratulations on the fabulous scholarship to Minnesota!!!! I’m so happy the blog has been helpful to you.
Maggie, I never understand how you can know ND is your top choice if you’ve never been there! Especially if you’re used to our lovely California weather. You can call and introduce yourself and tell them why ND is your #1, you can ask for a phone appointment with an admission counselor. A LOCI doesn’t have to be one formal letter – you can write letters regularly, sharing something more each time. But I don’t like the idea of sending the audio file. I mean, it’s unique, but it also sounds a bit nutty to me…… ; )
Hi Anne!
Your blog post was so helpful to me. As I am sure you know, competition is getting fierce and I am now on wait at my top choice schools (George Washington and Washington University). I have already sent a letter of continued interest to both, and would really like to know if there is anything else you think would recommend. I will gladly follow up with the universities as many times as prudent, but I worry about over doing it. Do you think sending multiple letters of interest is wise? Possibly making a phone call to the office of admissions? Any advice in this realm would be very much appreciated. Thank you so much!
Best,
Eli
My question is …once accepted off the waitlist the law school is stating I have 24 hours to commit and leave a deposit. What does “commit” mean? Is that a legally binding verbal commitment (as a college ED) or an agreement to lose the deposit?
Janet, unless they tell you that you need to withdraw all other applications, you are only risking losing the deposit. But if you’re unclear, just ask the school.
Hi Eli – This might be the best dollar you ever spend! It’s a download of the chapter of my audio book called “Launching Your Campaign to Get In”
Hello Ann,
I was waitlisted at Willamette UCL in Oregon. I have told WUCL that I would unequivocally attend if they offer, because they are my only chance in the region that I want to live and practice.
My question is, should I, and how do I go about, highlighting the fact that I am gay on an additional LOCI? I hope that this raises a diversity flag and improves my chances, but it is not a topic that was addressed at all on my app (no sexual minority checkbox or diversity statement) nor did I address it in my personal statement. Is my coming out to them going to be seen as a blatant attempt to exploit what some think is a quasi-minority status?
Another question is that the school says that they don’t want to do interviews, but I would like to visit anyway next month. Is the fact that school is not in session going to make me look like the candidate who is just trying to get the impromptu interview, when there is clearly no other reason to be there in the middle of May?
Thanks for your time,
Nate
Nate, you should visit and you should send a diversity essay.
Wow! I’m so happy I stumbled upon this website!
I’ve had a pretty unlucky admissions cycle and have been waitlisted at 7 schools. One of them is University of Michigan Law and I want to go there so bad! I sent them a long letter about two weeks ago expressing how much I want to go to there, and I explained my connection with Michigan and Ann Arbor (I was born there but moved to CA when I was 10) and that my parents both went there. I told them I would accept a spot immediately if I should be so lucky.
I know that their initial deposit deadline has just passed, so I’m thinking that it might be a good time to send another letter expressing my interest. What do you recommend that I say in the second letter? Should it just be a short “I just want to let you know that I’m just interested in your school” or should I take the opportunity to write more about mysel. If you think I should do the latter, what type of information should I divulge?
THANK YOU!
Laura, it probably is a good time and you’re doing everything right so far. Have you visited or made any personal connections? If so, take advantage of those.
Thus far, I have been placed on four waiting lists. I told all four schools that I am interested in staying on them a couple weeks ago right around the time that I received that notification. I told my first choice I’d like to go there, and I think I made a mistake in telling one school that I had only “moderate” interest in going there. But so be it.
I have not made any correspondence since then. Hearing the podcast that you were in suggested that I send some updates. Though it hasn’t been long, I’d like to send something more meaningful than just, “yeah, count me in.” I hope that initial brief response did not pose too much of a hindrance to my possibilities at those schools.
I will put together a good letter. I’m also going to set up a visit. I’d like to know your feedback, if any, on this stuff.
hi Ann,
i have read your book and LOVED it. thanks so much for being awesome. it helped me IMMENSELY in preparing to submit my apps. im on the wait list for GWU but have already sent in my seat deposit for wake. wake has not offered me money yet and i see myself going to GWU if i do get accepted of with a scholarship offer. is it unreasonable to assume that since GWU is a higher ranking school i most certainly will not be offered any money if admitted off the wait list?
thank you so much.
Hi Will,
Agree you made a mistake with the “moderate” interest response. I think updates would be helpful and if there is one school you’d absolutely attend if admitted, make sure they know that. If you would like help with your letters, we do offer hourly consulting. I couldn’t tell from your comment if that’s what you were seeking or not.
Decisions,
Thank you so much for your great feedback!!!!! I really appreciate it (and if you’re so inclined, I love collecting 5-star reviews on Amazon!).
I think it’s unlikely that you’ll get a scholarship offer from GW… You need to decide whether you would attend GW at full price over going to Wake at full price. If so, tell GW you would absolutely attend if admitted.
Thank you Ann. I will take that into consideration. and amazon ratings here i come!
Hi Ann,
Thank you for your Awesome Blog. I was just accepted off the waitlist at William Mitchell. I was accepted at Western State in CA were I reside. I would like to practice in CA one day, but I’m not opposed to moving out of state for a better opportunity. HELP. What do you think I should do?
Thanks for your wonderful feedback!
Ann I forgot to mention I’m on the wait list for Southwestern too. Should I stay in CA and ride out my WL or pack my bags to MN?
Gracie, I can’t tell you where to go without knowing you a lot better than I do, but fight your way in at SW if you can!
Hey Ann,
Any idea on when Wisconsin or UC Hastings start accepting candidates off their waitlists? I’m currently headed to American, but would go to either Wisco or Hastings if offered. Thanks so much for the great blog!
Sam, most waiting lists don’t start to move until July or August so hang tight
Ann,
I am a long time follower, first time poster! I am a NT student with over eight years of paralegal experience. I find myself waitlisted to three schools this year, all in the Chicagoland area. I am getting more and more nervous as I have sold my home, moved my family and am quitting a well paying job……and am still waitlisted. My stats are not good “on paper” 150; 2.71 (3.7) with health condition to explain the poor first year course work. However, my resume is robust. I have sent follow up LOCI to each school. Two questions for you 1) Any suggestions on how to proceed from here? 2) Why are schools waiting so long to move on their WL?
Cheers!
Ann,
I am a long time follower, first time poster, non-traditional student with eight years of paralegal experience. I am WL at 3 Chicagoland schools. I do not have great scores 150, 2.7 (3.7). The low GPA is resulting from a few years I had health issues. Nonetheless, I have sold my home, moved my family and yes, am still WL to three schools. I have a robust resume with much health law experience. I have written multiple LOCIs and visited the schools etc. So here are two questions for you….1) Is there anything else you would recommend to help me stand out from other WL candidates and 2) What is going on this year with WLs? It seems many schools have tons of applicants on the WL, yet are not moving yet.
HI Ann: I wrote the following on another waitlist entry you have on here but I wasnt sure which one you would see and since im dying for your opinion im reposting here:
Hi Ann:
I got waitlisted at a couple of school including my first choice Pace. I have a 150 lsat and 3.2 gpa. I visited the campus, spoke to some of the admissions people, wrote a LOCI and sent an updated resume. two days later my file went complete and a decision mailed.
now, could i possibly be rejected from the waitlist? just seems like the letter worked to have them re-review my file, but could they have decided to just reject me early on or something? I havent received a decision letter in the mail yet but the suspense is killing me.
Hi Carmen,
You’ll have to see what the letter says…..
Andrea,
It is not yet time when waitlists really start moving – it’s going to be July and August so you’re going to have to continue doing what you’re doing, and continue it for another 6 weeks! Good luck!
Ann,
Hello…I hope life has been treating you well.
I’ve decided to go ahead and move to MN from CA. I can’t wait to get off the wait list at Southwestern.
Ann, what do you think about students like me paying full sticker price for a TTT? Even if I were to get off the WL at Southwestern I would be paying full $$ (supposedly they ran out of scholarship funds already and I’m well below their scores). I am an older student so waiting to take the LSAT is out of the question. It’s now or never.
Thanks for your advice.
Best
Gracie,
Everybody has to think about the cost of law school, no matter where they attend. But you should look at what you expect to make upon graduation (given that you won’t have as many career years ahead of you as an older student) and what you will have to pay in loans every month. Good luck with your move.
Hello,
I’m becoming a little confused about the waitlist process. I am in at one school, but waiting to hear from 3 others that I would prefer. I’m wondering, since the tuition for the school where I am admitted is due in early August, if it is typical for me to lose all of that money if I am admitted last minute to another school. I would like to be able to tell those schools where I am waitlisted that I would accept their offers until the last minute, but I certainly can’t do that if I have already paid one semesters tuition. How does it usually work?
Thank you,
Carlisle
Hi Ann,
Just a quick question. I just recently made my deposit at William Mitchell and have all the Grad Plus loans squared away. Today, I received an ivitation to apply to Case Western from the asst. Dean via the CRS.
Should I even bother to apply this late (even with the ivitation)? I’m afraid they might just waitlist me or reject me so I can boost their numbers (URM). I’m tired of being a pawn in the admissions game.
Thanks so much, you’re wonderful for providing this blog!
Hi Grace,
If you’re happy at WM, don’t respond to the
ployinvitation from CW. However, if you’d rather attend CW then you might as well try, especially if the application is free. I definitely appreciate your sentiment about being a pawn : )Hi Carlisle
Part of your tuition may not be refundable – you’ll need to check with the policy at the school where you’ve sent deposits.
Ann
Hi Ann,
I followed your advice and applied to Case, and to my big surprise…was accepted! The price tag is 42k a year (no scholarship offer) and I already locked in my lease in Minneapolis,and sent deposits at William Mitchell (32k a year, no scholly). I know Case is the better school, and the opportunity to make more $$ is there, but Cleveland scares me …lol. But, the cost of leaving there is so cheap, which would be nice. I thought for sure they were going to reject me! I plan on making my way back to CA after school. What should I do?
Thanks again for your help! Have a wonderful weekend.
Hi Ann, Do you know whether Hastings is still accepting off its waitlist? I’m trying to decide if I should sign up for another LSAT or not..Thanks, David in NOLA
David, waiting lists don’t close until the first day of classes because schools never know who is going to jump somewhere else or change their mind altogether.
Grace, that’s amazing! Congratulations!!!!! The rest of the decision is up to you, but I’m so glad I was able to help!
Hi Ann,
I hope you are well. Just as the previous responses have mentioned your advice and help are a God send. Especially as anxiety and doubt creep in as we await on the waitlist. Any time I feel overwhelmed by the whole process, I just crack open your book for a little pep talk, and hope is restored. Thank you!
I am currently on Loyola’s (Los Angeles) waitlist, I’ve done all that you’ve recommended, but there is one thing that I am unsure of. I had the opportunity to meet with a LLS professor, and my impression is that it went well. Would it be wise to ask if they would provide feedback to the Admissions Committee?
Thank you!
Hi DC,
I am so happy to know that the book and blog have been so helpful to you throughout this process! Thanks for sharing that with me.
I don’t think you should ask the professor to do anything for you, but I do think you should get back in touch and let him/her know that you remain on the WL and that you would absolutely attend Loyola if admitted. I wish you all the best!
Thank you Ann for the advice. With all the unknowns in the appolication process, your experience and wisdom are very comforting. Thanks again.
Hello,
I have been accepted at a schoo on my own and me and my sister have been waitlisted at two different schools together. Ideally we would like to go together to the same school but it is already the end of July and we still have not heard from the two schools.
I want to move forward with registration at my accepted school, submitting loan and securing a place. If we get notification that we are both accepted at the same school right before school starts, what are my options for “dropping” my registraion and moving my loan information to the new school. Is this even an option or has this ever happened before?
Thank you so much!
Veronica, this is all totally normal. It happens all the time. Just find out the drop and refund policy at the school where you are enrolled.
Hi Ann,
This blog and comments have been very enlightening and helpful. I am female finishing my undergrad this year at U of Michigan, 171 LSAT 3.96 GPA, and today I was just waitlisted at American. I have my heart absolutely set on going there, I fell in love with the program and decided that it was a better fit for me than other, higher ranked schools. Judging from their LSAT and GPA range I thought I would be an easy admit, especially since I am have extracurriculars, work abroad, and study abroad to round out my app. Alas, I am WL. I was wondering if you know anything about the size of the WL this year at American and can give me any information about what they accept. In the email they said they historically accept “a number” off the waitlist, which I think might be due to students using it as a safety school and then going to Georgetown/Harvard/Yale/Columbia sort of school? I am planning on sending a LOCI and my updated transcripts.
Thanks for your advice.
Erika, I am quite sure that American has no clue that you have your heart set on going there. They do not think you will attend. Convince them that you will.
Hello Ann,
I was recently waitlisted at my #1 school, U of San Francisco. My lsat is way below their accepted student range but I have a pretty good 3.5 gpa. Also, I’m an urm (African American). I was wondering if you have any experience with USF’s admissions and if you have any idea of the likelihood of them accepting someone in my circumstance off their waitlist?
Also, the waitlist letter stated that I needed to submit the waitlist response form within two weeks of the letter’s date (2/7). Would it be too late to fax it to them on Monday (2/20)? I plan submitting a loci as well, which will highlight my interest in their public interest certificate program, along with my general interest in living/studying law in San Fran. Should submit it asap?
Thank you for your advice.
Jarett, Send a response ASAP. Why have you waited? Go visit the school, write a detailed, convincing LOCI, and keep in touch with them regularly.
Ann,
Thank you for your timely response.
I currently live on campus at my undergrad university and don’t have immediate access to my primary mailing address. Thus when the waitlist letter was supposed to have been received, I couldn’t physically access it myself until I got home this weekend.
Nevertheless, I do plan on submitting my waitlist response form and LOCI ASAP on Monday. How regularly should I keep in touch with admissions? And by what means (email, snail mail, etc)?
Hi Jarett, For just 99 cents you can listen to my book’s chapter on “Launching Your Campaign to Get In” on Amazon as an MP3 download. Just follow this link: http://www.amazon.com/Ch-13-Launching-Your-Campaign/dp/B0045861N8/ref=sr_1_4?ie=UTF8&s=dmusic&qid=1329664947&sr=1-4
Ann,
I recently got waitlisted at my #1 school, The University of Wisconsin. I have an LSAT near the bottom of their 25/75 range and a slightly below GPA (as an engineering student). I have decent soft credentials (worked 3 years as a patent engineer).
I’ve heard that Wisconsin has a tendency to waitlist applicants and was wondering if you had any input on the chances a person with my credentials might have at getting in.
Moving forward I’m planning on sending in an LOCI right away and taking the Patent Bar in the next few months. Is there anything else I should consider? Would sending copies of patent applications I’ve drafted and prosecuted be of any help?
Any input would be greatly appreciated!
Thanks!
-Stu
Hi Stu,
Please don’t send copies of patent applications but do send letters and keep in touch consistently, assuring them you would absolutely attend if admitted.
Hi Ann,
Thank you so much for this incredible resource! I just got waitlisted at Fordham, my top choice school. I am slightly below their medians with a 3.49 and a 162, but I have solid recommendations, work experience etc. I have visited the school and met with the Director of Admissions who seemed to like me, but now this?!
Given my numbers, what should I do to make my case? I will write an LOCI and was also thinking of getting another professor to send another recommendation to prove that i can handle the workload. It was also suggested to me that I get my recommender (my thesis advisor) to give the school a call later in May/June on my behalf – what do you think?
Thank you so much! Any guidance would be very much appreciated,
Lili
Lili,
Congratulations on making the WL at your top choice school, and for taking the initiative to visit (which obviously paid off). You are doing all the right things – stagger your communications because May, June, and July is the time when waiting lists really start moving and you don’t want to annoy anyone.
Hi Ann,
I just got waitlisted from Cardozo may program
154 Lsat and 3.5 gpa, guess my LOR and PS were strong since my numbers are certainly out the range. I am sending an updated resume and another Letter of Rec from my rabbi, I would appreciate any guidance on this matter. Thanks!!
- Andrew
Hi Ann,
Just wanted to say that your blogs always come right on time! I spoke to you briefly over the phone and since then I’ve been accepted to four schools all with reading and following your advice. I was just accepted to Barry and Waitlisted at Texas Southern so I couldn’t have read this at a better time. Now I know I’ll probably have to put down the deposit at Barry and send the LOCI to Texas Southern for good measure as they are my #1 choice. Thanks again for all you do
Courtney
Hello Ann-
Thank you for all the great advice both in your podcasts and Blog! I was just wait-listed at Saint Louis University School of Law (SLU), my dream school, and after reading your podcast transcripts I plan on sending a letter reiterating my desire to attend as well as all new information that is pertinent to the admissions process. However, SLU offers an AAMPLE program, would it be wise to ask if I am a candidate for this? I am willing to pay the nonrefundable deposit and do the work required just for the opportunity to attend. I am non traditional student, I am 27 years old, I am finishing my second masters degree- something SLU was not aware of when I made application, all which I think should be mentioned. Again, thanks for everything you do!
Eric
Hi Eric,
You can inquire about AAMPLE – absolutely – and you should update them about your second masters degree.
Hi Ann,
I’m really interested in entertainment law, so my top choice is Southwestern, since they seem to have a variety of courses offered in this area. I was recently waitlisted, and wanted some advice on what my next steps should be. My GPA from USC is 3.93, but I can’t seem to increase my LSAT score of 149. I was a Music Industry major, and have been working in the music industry for the past 3 years since graduation. So far I have gone to an information session at the school, attended a Diversity Day, and attended a class. I have also kept in contact with admissions by sending a letter of intent in March and an update on legal projects I’ve helped with/work tasks in April. Is there anything else I should be doing? Also, I was going to send another letter in May, but wasn’t sure if there’s something else I should discuss, since I didn’t want to be repeating myself.
Any advice would be appreciated.
Thanks!
Ashley
Hi Ann,
I know its been mentioned several times but thank you so much for your book. It has been a great help navigating the whole application process.
I am currently on the WL at UVA and Vanderbilit. Vandy is my #1 choice for me, esp for the region I want to live/practice in. My LSAT is definitely with their range (171/3.45GPA). I have already sent a LOCI, I have a recent alumna calling on my behalf, and I am working on an additional LOR. I know I would jump at the opportunity if admitted.
My problem that I was also accepted to WashU in St Louis with a $25k/yr scholarship. It’s a great school! I know I’m going to go into public interest, so is it worth accumulating twice the amount of debt at my #1 school if I was admitted from the WL?
Any advice would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks again!
Megan
Megan, so happy the book was helpful to you. I love collecting 5-star reviews on Amazon if you’re so inclined!
The key to your answer is this: WHY is Vandy your #1 choice….
Ashley, the key is to let them know you’re a sure thing if they find a place for you. Watch for the school’s deposit deadline(s) and follow up shortly thereafter each time.
Ann,
I will risk sounding like a broken record but your advice and books are fantastic! I would love to get your opinion on the matter… I have an extensive science background and am interested in patent law. Due to low LSAT 154 I have been limited to 3T schools. I have been accepted to Akron Law (20k/yr sholarship) and waitlisted to U New Hampshire. When it comes to IP programs, UNH is very respected but the scholarship and overall lower price tag of Akron are very difficult to pass up. Do you recommend fighting for UNH? Thank you for any advice!
Hi Ann,
I have been browsing the internet trying to find any tips to get into my top choices off of their waitlists. I have been waitlisted at Stanford and Harvard. Stanford appears to have an open door policy, prospective students have been known to walk right into the admissions deans office to state their interest. Harvard, on the other hand, has a closed door policy. I have written 2 loci to Harvard and 1 to Stanford, prior to finding out I was waitlisted at both. I plan on sending a new loci once every four weeks and attempting to speak with the Dean at Stanford. Do you think I am oversteping my boundaries or is there more I can do?
Thanks!
Tami
Mila, THANK YOU! I think you can fight for UNH simply to see if it will be an option for you. I also think there’s something to be said for being one of a few people in your class interested in IP so you’re not competing for jobs with your entire law school class. But part of this decision comes down to where you hope to practice law.
Tami, you’re not overstepping. You don’t need to do a formal letter each time. A voicemail, brief email is sufficient. Good luck!
Hi Ann,
Thanks for the advice! I think they have a deposit deadline today, so I’ll send another letter tomorrow.
~ Ashley